Noah ALTIZER

Other Events:

• _UID: 4534CA632DEE437B943CAE1EB86DB05F4F8A

Notes:

Killed by his brother-in-law, Bill Whitaker.

Noah married Mollie B. WHITAKER 3 Jul 1900, Buchanan Co. VA. Mollie (daughter of Hiram (Hi) WHITAKER and Emily Jane NELSON) was born Sep 1880, Tazewell Co. VA; died Bef 1910. [Group Sheet]

1. Essie ALTIZER was born 07 Jun 1901, Tazewell Co. VA; died 10 Sep 1978, Tazewell Co. VA; was buried , Clinch Valley Memorial Cemetery, Richlands, VA.
2. Lora ALTIZER was born 7 Sep 1903, Tazewell Co. VA; died 6 Nov 2006, Tuscon, AZ; was buried 13 Nov 2006, Greenhills Memorial Garden, Claypool Hill, Tazewell Co. VA.
3. James Jesse ALTIZER was born 12 Feb 1905, Tazewell Co VA; died 22 Dec 1979, Tazewell Co VA; was buried , Altizer Family Cemetery, Whitaker Ridge, Tazewell Co. VA.
4. Paul Harman ALTIZER was born 1907, Tazewell Co. VA.

Other Events:

• _UID: 0A48E8B7588948A79627C3FD4CDC29DD6CBC

Notes:

1860 Census, Tazewell Co, VA, Western District, Baptist Valley P.O., taken on 10 Aug 1860,
Page 876, Family #1309.
Listed as James Altizer, age 5, born in VA, in household of father, William Altizer.

1870 Census, Tazewell Co, VA, Maiden Spring District, Knob PO, taken on 23 Aug 1870,
Page 292B, Family #457.
Listed as James Altizer, age 15, born in VA, in household of father, William A. Altizer.

1880 Census, Tazewell Co, VA, Maiden Spring District, page 277A.
Listed as James Altizer, age 25, born in VA, farmer, head of household.

1900 Census, Tazewell Co, VA; Maiden Spring District; taken on 5 Jun 1900; Page 176B;
Family #67/67.
Listed as James B. Altizer; age 45; born in VA in Apr 1855; married 22 yrs; farmer; head of
household.

1910 Census, Tazewell Co, VA; Maiden Spring District; taken on 11 May 1910; Page 236A;
Family #338/338.
Listed as James B. Altizer; age 55; born in VA; married once for 33 yrs; farmer; head of
household.

1920 Census, Tazewell Co, VA; Maiden Spring District; taken on 27 Jan 1920; Page 270B;
Family #284/289.
Listed as James B. Altizer; age 64; born in VA; married; farmer; head of household.

16 Dec 1921 Clinch Valley News
Tom SHORT, a well known citizen of the Whitaker Ridge Community, was shot and killed Saturday afternoon last about 2 o'clock, on "Grassy Spur" by Bliss ALTIZER, who is also well known in that community. The shooting, according to information reaching this office, was the result of a poker game, in which the men had been engaged prior to the shooting. At the conclusion of the game the men separated, going in opposite directions, when without warning, SHORT shot ALTIZER with a pistol, the bullet penetrating his body. ALTIZER immediately turned and emptied a load load of bird shot into SHORT'S body, inflicting a wound from which he died a short time afterwards. ALTIZER was given a preliminary hearing, Magistrate HEAVERS, presiding, and released on a $1,000 bond for appearance here in court. From the information we have received it appears the shooting of SHORT was justifiable. SHORT is survived by a wife and one child, and was about 25 years old. He served five years in the US Army.

23 Dec 1921 Clinch Valley News
Bandy, Va. December 17. Editor the News: Please correct the mistake of the poker game and killing of Tom SHORT, as it was done on the Altizer Ridge, a distance of three or four miles from Whitaker Ridge. Give the Whitaker Ridge justice. M.S. WHITAKER.

James married Sarah Jane Christian 10 Jan 1878, Tazewell Co. VA. Sarah (daughter of George Dos CHRISTIAN and Sarah Jane (Sallie) Wingo) was born 09 Jul 1858, Tazewell Co. VA; died 09 Dec 1935, Tazewell Co. VA. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Married:
Virginia, Marriages, 1785-1940
Name: James B. Altizer
Birth Date: 1856
Birthplace: Tazewell County, Va
Age: 22
Spouse's Name: Sarah Christian
Spouse's Birth Date: 1860
Spouse's Birthplace: Tazewell County, Va
Spouse's Age: 18
Event Date: 10 Jan 1878
Event Place: Tazewell, Virginia
Father's Name: W. Altizer
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: G[eorge] Christian
Spouse's Mother's Name: A
Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01695-4
System Origin: Virginia-EASy
GS Film number: 34214
Reference ID: Page 49 Line 7

Other Events:

• _UID: CBA30D4705AA4F90AA55CFFFD51B740D8E50

William married Alice Louisa HARMAN 20 Jan 1839, Tazewell Co VA. Alice (daughter of Adam HARMAN and Ruth CHRISTIAN) was born 1819, Tazewell Co VA; died Abt 1872, Tazewell Co. VA. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• _UID: 3F4B845AF57F4722A006EB3A25ABC4AE52A1

Notes:

CENSUS RECORDS

1850 United States Federal Census
Name: Louisa Altiser [Louisa Altizer]
Age: 30
Birth Year: abt 1820
Birthplace: Virginia
Home in 1850: Western District, Tazewell, Virginia
Gender: Female
Family Number: 1163
Household Members:
Wm Altiser 30
Louisa Altiser 30
Ruth Altiser 11
Jno Altiser 8
Adam Altiser 7
Riley Altiser 3
Thos Altiser 1

1860 United States Federal Census
Name: Lavicy Altizer [Louisa]
Age in 1860: 41
Birth Year: abt 1819
Birthplace: Virginia
Home in 1860: Western District, Tazewell, Virginia
Gender: Female
Post Office: Baptist Valley
Household Members:
William Altizer 41
Lavicy Altizer 41
John Altizer 17
Adam Altizer 15
Riley Altizer 13
Thomas Altizer 10
Susan Altizer 8
William Altizer 6
James Altizer 5
David Altizer 1
Martitia Altizer 15 [daughter-in-law, wife of John]

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• _UID: 4E2603C5FFB24851BBE183466931521FF6F1

Notes:

PHOTO

George Christian, of Indian Creek, about 1900
http://image.lva.virginia.gov/VDLP/Tazewell/images/VolumeI/pg006/0209.jpg Image

Photograph originally published in: An album of Tazewell County, Virginia. Tazewell Historical Society, 1989.
Part of a collection of Tazewell County photographs housed in the archives at the Tazewell County Public Library.

Caption: The son of Thomas and Mary "Polly" Altizer Christian, he married Nancy Bandy, daughter of William W. and Ellen Harrison Bandy, 28 August 1871 in Tazewell County. He was a veteran of the Civil War. He and his wife lived in Indian Creek. Courtesy of Susie Shrader.

CENSUS RECORDS

1850 United States Federal Census
Name: George Christian
Age: 14
Birth Year: abt 1836
Birthplace: Virginia
Home in 1850: Western District, Tazewell, Virginia
Gender: Male in household of Thomas and Mary Christian
Family Number: 1170

1860 United States Federal Census
Name: George Christian
Age in 1860: 24
Birth Year: abt 1836
Birthplace: Virginia
Home in 1860: Western District, Tazewell, Virginia
Gender: Male
Post Office: Baptist Valley
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Christian 45
George Christian 24
Sarah Christian 19
Nancy Bandy 21 [domestic]

1880 United States Federal Census
Name: George Christian
Age: 42
Birth Year: abt 1838
Birthplace: Virginia
Home in 1880: Maiden Spring, Tazewell, Virginia
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Nancy Christian
Father's Birthplace: Virginia
Mother's Birthplace: Virginia
Occupation: Farmer
Household Members:
George Christian 42
Nancy Christian 42
John J. Christian 19
Mathias Christian 16
James Christian 13
Ellen Christian 10
Mary Christian 8
Vica Christian 6
Rebecca Christian 1
William Christian 1

1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Geo Christian
Age: 60
Birth Date: Mar 1840
Birthplace: Virginia
Home in 1900: Maiden Spring, Tazewell, Virginia
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Eliza Christian
Marriage Year: 1893
Years Married: 7
Father's Birthplace: Virginia
Mother's Birthplace: Virginia
Household Members:
Geo Christian 60
Eliza Christian 34
Jas Christian 12
Graves Christian 6
Hannah Christian 4

1910 United States Federal Census
Name: George Christian
Age in 1910: 77
Birth Year: 1833
Birthplace: Virginia
Home in 1910: Maiden Spring, Tazewell, Virginia
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Allie L Christian
Father's Birthplace: Virginia
Mother's Birthplace: Virginia
Household Members:
George Christian 77
Allie L Christian 40
James Christian 20
Graves Christian 15
Hannah Christian 14
Ava S Christian 9

George married Sarah Jane (Sallie) Wingo 1856, Tazewell Co. VA. Sarah was born 03 Aug 1841, Tazewell Co. VA; died 07 May 1918, Bandy, Tazewell Co. VA. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• _UID: 09748DE492BA419AB4859BD05DE69DB8517D

Notes:

Tazewell Co. Death Register, page 7, line 307, shows David (Reilly) Altizer died 26 Sept 1854 at Dividing Ridge of dropsy. 2nd page states unknown parentage, married, farmer, reported by son-in-law John Christian.

David married Susan SLUSHER Abt 1809, Montgomery Co. VA. Susan (daughter of Christopher Schlosser and Eva Jane Hancock) was born Abt 1786, Maryland; died Aft 1860, Tazewell Co. VA. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• _UID: E039BA448A4D4069B4E59A2382AD036C8B9E

Notes:

Info on her parents are from the Pane-Joyce Genealogy
http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/gen/report/rr24/rr24_086.html#P52967

However, the Altizer Family site has her last name as possibly Sadler.

http://www.altizerfamily.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I1623&tree=tree1

Some other sources have her listed as Susan Slusher Brewster. So it is not confirmed if she is descended from or even related to the Slusher family of Floyd Co. VA who are the descendants of Christopher Slusher. So proceed with caution in using this information on her possible parentage as there is no documentation or proof at this point.

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• _UID: 501FC0A46A1D46BCA518BEC282A6FDC17FF7

Notes:

Area was later part of Wythe Co.

Adam married Ruth CHRISTIAN 20 Aug 1819, Tazewell Co VA. Ruth (daughter of Thomas Bailey CHRISTIAN and Louisa HARMAN) was born Abt 1797, Wythe Co. VA; died Bef Dec 1854, Tazewell Co. VA. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• _UID: A720666396FB41019FDCAEA83681CC19D0B3

Notes:

Birth:
Tazewell Co. would be formed from Wythe Co.

Notes:

Married:
Virginia, Marriages, 1785-1940
Name: Adam Harmon
Spouse's Name: Ruth Christian
Event Date: 20 Aug 1819
Event Place: Tazewell, Virginia
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01695-4
System Origin: Virginia-EASy
GS Film number: 34214
Reference ID: Page 51

Other Events:

• _UID: 1B2F7D19EF3A4A6AAA5034573786D67E53DF

Notes:

THOMAS BAILEY CHRISTIAN WAS NOT A DESCENDANT OF CHIEF CORNSTALK.

We know Thomas Bailey Christian (TBC) was orphaned and raised by Capt. Thomas Mastin, Sumner Co. TN. His parentage is the subject of much dispute among Christian researchers. One group says that Thomas Bailey Christian is the grandson of Chief Cornstalk and his father was Ellinipsico. Another group puts his parents as Nathaniel and Jane Christian with his ancestry going to the Isle of Man.

DNA studies are underway of several Christian descendants. The initial result shows no Native American ancestry, but rather European and Scandinavian, indicating the Isle of Man connection.

Kennith Simpson has been the leader in getting clarity the question of Christian DNA and Native American ancestry and of finding out more about Thomas Bailey Christian and Thoma Mastin. Kennith is a direct descendant of TBC on the "wrong side of the sheets" as his ancestor, Addison Christian, fathered a child out of wedlock.

Kennith A. Simpson > son of Addison D. Simpson > son of
Jerry Mastin Simpson > son of John Walden Simpson > son of
Elizabeth Simpson and Unknown Father. [Notice how Christan names like Mastin and Addison are used in his Simpson family.]

DNA, death certificate, and research indicates that the father was Addison "Attie" Bailey Christian > son of
Mastin Harman "Shootekitehl" Christian > son of Thomas Bailey Christian.

Kennith has written extensively about DNA testing and his test results on the Rootsweb Christian message board.

THOMAS BAILEY CHRISTIAN WAS NOT NATIVE AMERICAN

"I am matched with Nathaniel Christian by DNA Y-Chromosome,both via Y-Search and Ancestry.Com, handed down from father to son etc. My Y-Search DNA match is with Nathaniel Christian from the G. Payne family tree. My Ancestry.Com matches me up with Nathaniel J. Christian from the Fred Christian DNA and in the Christian Family Tree.

Posted: 20 Sep 2012 7:00PM GMT by Kennith Simpson on Rootsweb Christian Family message board.

"It does appear that my assumptions are correct in that Addison "Attie" Bailey Christian was not Native American. If in fact Addison Christian was the grandson of Thomas Bailey "Cornstalk" Christian, then TBC was not the son of Elinipsico or Chief Cornstalk since the Y-DNA would have been handed down from father to son to grandson etc. However this does indicate that Thomas Bailey Kumskaka Christian Cornstalk was not NA.

We both share the same Haplogroup R1B which is of European and West Asia ancestry. Native Americans are not in the R1B Haplogroup.

While this does not show conclusive evidence that Addison "Attie" Bailey Chritian was my great, great, grandfather it does show that who ever it was, was a member of his family. My only conclusive evidence is of Course the Death Certificate naming Attie Christian as the father.

What the Y-DNA test and the BETA Ethnicity test has been able to conclude is that I am descended from the Christian family, Tazewell Virginia and that there is no Native American blood in the male lines. This does not rule out the possibility of NA blood in the maternal or female lines."

Posted: 31 Jan 2013 3:07 AM GMT by Kennith Simpson on Rootsweb Christian Family message board.

FINAL CONFIRMATION: THOMAS BAILEY CHRISTIAN WAS NOT NATIVE AMERICAN

Kennith Simpson took a second DNA test form 23 and Me to confirm what Ancestry's test had indicated. Here are the results:

Today I received my DNA test results back from 23 andMe. The test results confirm that there is no Native American DNA in my blood line on either side. Therefore any Native American ancestry in my family would only be possible if it is by marriage and not by actual blood line. Both ancestry.com and 23 and Me stipulate 0% NA DNA results in all of my tests. I am still waiting on the results for DNA matches and will keep everyone informed.

What this means in a nutshell is that any one related to Thomas Bailey Christian the reported adopted son of Thomas Mastin would not be NA on the paternal side. Any Native American ancestry could only come down through the maternal side. Since the BETA ancestry test included both the maternal and paternal side it would also mean that Mastin Harman Christian nor his wife Jane McKinster had NA DNA. It would also mean that Louisa Katherine Harman did not carry any NA DNA. Any children of these men who had different mothers could still carry NA DNA from their maternal side.

Me, my father Addison D. Simpson son of Jerry Mastin Simpson son of John Walden Simpson, son of Addison "Attie" Bailey Christian son of Mastin Christian, son of Thomas Bailey Christian, are not or were not of Native American Descent. Thomas Bailey Christian was not the son of Chief Cornstalk or his son Elinispisco, and his mother was not of NA ancestry either. BETA DNA testing would have shown any NA DNA on either side of Thomas Bailey Christian.

Posted: 26 Nov 2013 3:01 AM GMT by Kennith Simpson on Rootsweb Christian Family message board.

FINAL WORD: NO NATIVE AMERICAN DNA PERIOD

Just to let everyone know that I have gotten other DNA matches, this time through the 23 and Me DNA testing. This has opened up a new problem however. Both the ancestry.com and the 23 and Me DNA BETA tests are ethnicity tests and help individuals determine their ethnicity. These test are not gender specific such as the Y-DNA and Mitochondrial DNA tests. The BETA test includes DNA findings for virtually every member of the family. Thus far I have not had a single match that shows any Native American DNA in any line of the families, male or female.

I am now convinced beyond a doubt that Thomas Bailey Christian was not Native American nor was his mother. And most likely no relative was related via DNA to any Native American Tribe, but I do not rule out that some distant relatives may have been raised NA and considered themselves as such. Thus passing down from generation to generation their Native American Ancestry. I also believe that there are two kinds of Ancestry, that which is substantiated by DNA testing and passed down through our DNA and that which we associate with as being our ethnicity the group or heritage that we most commonly relate to.

Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:55:51

OTHERS MALES CHRISTIAN RESULTS

"We now have three members of the TBC line that have taken at least one of the DNA test. Myself and Charlie have taken both the Y-DNA and the BETA DNA test. All tests show the same conclusion, NO NA DNA. Here is what is so good about this. You trace your line back to Thomas Scaggs Christian, Charlie goes back to Moses Christian and I go back to Mastin Christian. all are brothers, all are sons of Thomas Bailey Christian. Our big stumbling block now is connecting TBC Christian and Thomas Christian of Tazewell to the Christians of Charles City."

Posted: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 13:32:30 by Kennith Simpson on Rootsweb Christian Family message board.

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THOMAS BAILEY CHRISTIAN'S ANCESTRY GOES BACK TO THE ISLE OF MAN

From Kennith Simpson:

"I now have two verifiable matches from the BETA DNA test. One which does prove the connection with Charles City, Bedford Virginia area and one that does come back to Tazewell.

This is all good because the Tazewell connection is from DNA. Matching DNA is an indication that Thomas Bailey Christian was not Indian and that his origins most likely does go back to Charles City or to a member of that family.

The problem of narrowing it down is so difficult, because the Y-Chromosome DNA pertaining to the male line, pertains to all the male line. So, Thomas Bailey Christian would have the Christian DNA but he could have been born in Tazewell from a father or grandfather from Charles City. All male Christians from a single line would carry the same DNA but could come from many areas. The original Christian line that carries my DNA goes back to the Isle of Man and then to Scandinavia. some Christians of the same line can go back to Ireland, England or Scotland but be of the same origin. It depends on how far back you can trace your ancestors. Everyone that shares the same Y-Chromosome DNA will eventually end up at a single beginning. When I said I had yet to find any thing that will connect the Tazewell Christians with the Charles City Christians. I would prefer to have male Y-Chromosome DNA in order to make the connection but any DNA is better than none.

May Elizabeth Christian is a direct descendent of Thomas Bailey Christian and a DNA match does connect the two branches, Tazewell and Charles City.

This would be my first verifiable BETA match to Tazewell.
The Young family DNA results connect the Charles City Christians with me. Elizabeth is my first match back to the old country through the BETA testing as opposed to the Y-Chromosome test.

In a nutshell, Elizabeth is old Country England. Young connects me with Charles City May Christian connects me with the Tazewell branch. Both Young and May Christian share my DNA per BETA testing therefor the two branches do meet and are one."

Posted: 10 Jan 2013 2:28PM GMT by Kennith Simpson on Rootsweb Christian Family message board.

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AGNES BRANCH PEARLMAN, FOUNDER OF THE CHRISTIAN FAMILY CHRONICLES: THOMAS BAILEY CHRISTIAN IS NOT THE SON OF NATHANIEL CHRISTIAN AND JANE EWING

Agnes Branch Pearlman, long-time Christian Family researcher and publisher of the Christian Family Chronicles, presented the best research that Thomas Bailey Christian of Tazewell County, VA is NOT the son of Nathaniel Christian and Jane Ewing, Thomas Ewing Christian.

Below is her response to this question in a message posted December 31, 2000 at 10:19:53 on http://genforum.genealogy.com/christian/messages/1207.html.

Mrs. Pearlman died 21 May 2010.

I am posting her research and results so this misinformation will not be continued to be spread.

"Dear Linda and other Christian Cousins:

The following is being sent to all of you who received information that "Old Lewis' brother Nathaniel settled in Tazewell Co., VA . . ."

Not so! Or at least I have never seen any evidence that would substantiate such a move. Indeed, I have written numerous letters within the last year showing that Nathaniel Christian's son Thomas was not the one who settled in Tazewell Co., VA. Where on earth is all this erroneous and dubious information coming from?

Thomas Christian, progenitor of Tazewell Co., VA, was born about 1770?a boy of only 9 years of age when Nathaniel Christian's estate was settled in Montgomery Co., VA. A 9-year-old boy would have been too young to have served as security of his father's estate. Nathaniel Christian's son.

Thomas, born about 1750-57, was one of the securities of Nathaniel's estate (along with Thomas' brother-in-law William Boydston); and, of course, as a 22 to 29-year-old was quite old enough to serve in such a capacity.

Nathaniel's son Thomas was living in Cocke Co., TN, in 1830 at the same time the other Thomas was living in Tazewell Co., VA. The U. S. census as well as other records document their presence and approximate ages. It is my guess that because, as court records reveal, Thomas of Tazewell was "an orphan," someone simply assumed that he must have been Nathaniel's son, but that simply was not the case.

As for Nathaniel Christian: Following are a few documented events of his life:

Nathaniel was born between 1723-1733 since he was named as underaged son in 23 October 1743 Goochland Co., VA, will of father, Thomas Christian.

Nathaniel married Jane (Ewing?) about 1747.

Nathaniel's daughter Elizabeth Christian was born 1748.

Nathaniel's son Thomas Christian was born 1750-57.

Nathaniel was listed as tithe in Lunenburg Co., VA, in 1752 as was his brother Thomas.

Nathaniel purchased 175 acres (of 225) on Cub Creek in Lunenburg Co., VA, 1 July 1754. Brother Thomas was witness to the purchase..

Bedford Co., VA, was formed from part of Albemarle and Lunenburg 1753-4.

Brother Thomas in Bedford Co., VA, by 25 November 1760.

Nathaniel's son Isham was born about 1760.

Nathaniel sold 175 acres on Cub Creek of Lunenburg Co., VA, 12 March 1762 with brother Thomas as witness.

Nathaniel made entry of 400 acres in Bedford Co., VA, lower side south of Blackwater on Hastie's & Smith's lines beginning at Irwin's corner red oak under Smith's Mountain 28 February 1763.

Nathaniel's son Anthony was born about 1765.

Pittsylvania formed from Halifax adjacent Bedford 1766-7; county boundaries in state of flux for several years.

Nathaniel was on list of tithables in Pittsylvania 1767.
Nathaniel attended Bedford Co., VA, court in August 1768 (28 miles from home).

Nathaniel entered 400 acres Poison Fork of Bull Run in Bedford Co., VA, adjacent his own lines & Swanson's 4 April 1769.

Nathaniel's daughter Drucilla was born about 1769.

Brother Thomas allowed 30 miles to Bedford Co., VA, Courthouse March 1771.

Nathaniel living in Pittsylvania Co., VA, 22 July 1773
[Note: Nathaniel's home location in Pittsylvania Co., VA, straddled Bedford Co., VA, near where his brother Thomas lived on Staunton River in Bedford.]

Nathaniel was assigned 400 acres on East River below Five-Mile Fork, 3 Miles from Mouth in Montgomery Co., VA, by James Adair about 1777.

Daughter Elizabeth married William Boydston 1777 in Montgomery Co., VA.

In 1777/1778 Nathaniel Christian and William Boydston swore allegiance to Militia in Montgomery Co., VA.

Sometime after 1777 and before November 1781, Nathaniel's brother Thomas died, apparently in Bedford Co., VA.

Nathaniel died intestate and estate was administered in Montgomery Co., VA, 2 March 1779. Widow Jane was named as administrator with son Thomas and son-in-law William Boydston as security.

As heir under laws of primogenitor, eldest son Thomas inherited 400 acres on East River in Montgomery Co., VA, which he assigned to brothers Isham and Anthony Christian 3 April 1786.

By 18 September 1799 Nathaniel's son Thomas Christian was of Cocke Co., TN

One final comment: I believe that the Thomas Christian of Tazewell Co., VA, was probably related in some way to this family; however, I do not have any documentation that proves such a connection. Was he perhaps a son of David Christian, another son named in the 1743 will of Thomas Christian?

I welcome your input and evaluation of the above information.

Agnes Branch Pearlman"

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THERE MAY BE A NATIVE AMERICAN CONNECTION THROUGH THE WOMEN WHO MARRIED INTO THE CHRISTIAN FAMILY

The lack of connection to this Christian line has provided credence to an oral tradition handed down through several branches of Thomas Bailey Christian's descendants. So far there have been no Native American DNA from Thomas Bailey Christian's Y-DNA (Male line) from his descendants who have been tested through Ancestry.com.

HOWEVER, Native American ancestry most likely was from MATERNAL lines who married into this Christian family, especially the Skaggs, Whitt, and Lester families. There is no doubt of contact with Native American culture through the long hunter ancestry of the Whitt, Skaggs, and Harman men. With these two influences, TBS and his children may have been given Native American names. TBCs' Native American name was "Kumskaka." Are these names accurate? Are they Cherokee or Shawnee in origin? Who are the sources for these names?

I have made an editorial decision to keep these names rather than delete them because of the maternal lines as well as the cultural contacts.

There is a very active Yahoo group discussing this ancestry at http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/nikitie/conversations/messages.

According to James Red Wolf, after Chief Cornstalk and Ellinipsico were murdered at Point Pleasant. Ellinipsico's four children including his son Thomas Bailey were adopted by the Long Hunters. It now appears that TBC was not his son, but the other three may have been his children. Whatever the reason or circumstance, they came under the care or guardianship of Thomas Mastin and others.

There is a lot of discussion on the Christian family forums on Rootsweb, Ancestry, and Genealogy.com about the possible parentage of Thomas Bailey Christian and Rachel Skaggs.

Here is some of the discussion threads:
http://www.genforum.familytreemaker.com/christian/messages/2898.html

You can also search for more discussion at http://www.genforum.familytreemaker.com/christian/

There has been no definitive proof on this, although Mr. Red Wolf alludes to "proof" in the Virginia State Archives, but has not shared any proof beyond oral history from one part of the Christian and Skaggs families. His family tree is available at

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=AHN&db=adkinsfam&id=I19526

Other source:

http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Thomas_Christian_%2813%29

NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE DISCOUNTED

Tales of Native American heritage were passed down to his descendants. His great-grandchild Sallie Christian Charles, grandaughter of Moses Bailey Christian, and daughter of John Christian and Clemmie Harman, applied to the Eastern Cherokee in 1908. Application #10464. In her application she spells his name "Mose." Her application was rejected.

For more information about Cherokee genealogy, check out http://www.pollysgranddaughter.com. The following is from her article about Cherokee Wannabes. Since so much has been written about Moses' father, Thomas Bailey Christan, having Native American heritage, which has NOT been borne out by Y-DNA results or autosomal DNA results by any of his descendants.

This site has excellent articles on how to prove Cherokee ancestry. http://www.pollysgranddaughter.com/2011/06/fortune-hunters-guion-miller-roll-and.html#comment-form

The Guion Miller Roll is a list of Eastern Cherokee Indians who applied for compensation because of a 1906 lawsuit, and judgment in the tribe's favor in the United States Court of Claims on May 28, 1906, for them. This resulted in the appropriation of $1 million to the Tribe's eligible individuals and families. Newspapers were full of announcements that the Cherokees and/or Cherokee heirs would be receiving money anywhere from $5,000,000 to $11,000,000. Many times it was not made clear this was money for nearly the entire tribe but instead gave the impression that it was for specific families.

To be approved for funds the individual must have:
1. Been alive as of May 28, 1906
2. Established that he/she was a member or descendants of a person that had been included in the forced removal to Indian Territory, known as the Ross Party.
3. Not been affiliated with a tribe other than the Cherokee
4. Been members of the Eastern Cherokee tribe at the time of the treaties of 1835,1836, and 1845 between the United States and Eastern Cherokee.

There were 45,857 applications filed for about 900,000 claimants. 30,254 of those claimants were entitled to share in the funds. This means nearly 2/3 of all claimants were NOT entitled and therefore rejected.

A common assumption of those who descend from people who were rejected on the Miller Roll is that their ancestors were Cherokee, but they just couldn't prove it at that time. These families were usually always listed as white in vital records and were never listed in the Cherokee records or on any Cherokee rolls. They simply had no documentation or proof.

People applied for the Miller Roll who had never heard they were Cherokee before the money or land topic came up. They were suddenly informed by someone that they were Cherokee or related to a specific family and should apply. There were families who had heard they were Indian or "kin" to them, so they applied even though they had never heard what tribe of Indians they might be "kin" to. There were people who were notified by "claim agents" and lawyers that they were entitled to lots of money so they applied. There were people who were told they would be receiving both land and money, so they applied. There were people who applied because they thought they were enrolling in the Eastern Cherokee tribe and then would be entitled to land and money.

Many of the rejected claimants, for one reason or another, filed a claim believing they were going to come into money. One has to be careful of not basing claim to Cherokee ancestry based on a rejected claim from the Miller Roll. Though these applications often offer a lot of genealogical information, they don't necessarily offer any proof of Cherokee ancestry.



RECORDS ON THOMAS BAILEY CHRISTIAN

Source: "Reed and Related Families of Tazewell County, Virginia and McDowell County, West Virginia", by Juanita S Halstead.

From various records extant today, we have found that Thomas Christian was orphaned and raised by Major Thomas Mastin. We do know that he appears in Tazewell County
records as early as 1806, and that he owned several tracts of land, making his home on the Sinking Waters in that county. There is a case on record in Augusta County, VA in which Thomas Christian had a suit against John Wray over this land on the Sinking Waters of Tazewell County.

LAND RECORDS

Land Grants

Thomas Christian - 21 Feb 1785
Montgomery County
255 a. On Brush Creek, a branch of Bluestone the waters of New River
Grants No. N, p. 696 [This could be Thomas (13) or Thomas (18) depending on where the Montgomery County border fell. More research needed.]

Record of the Taxes in Sumner County for the Year 1792
Thomas Christian, 1 poll, tax 1 pound. Next household is Thomas Mastin.

Chalkley's Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish there is a lawsuit "Thomas Christian vs. Wray" 23 Jul 1803 which in a nutshell states Joseph Wray obtained certificate by right of settlment in Washington (afterwards Russell) now Tazewell Co. Joseph d. intestate, leaving son John Wray heir-at-law. John Wray sold a piece of land twice - first to Thomas Christian, of Sumner Co, territory south of the Ohio, by deed dated 26 Sep 1794 and then sold it a second time to Craven Belsha who bribed him......it states Thomas Christian was an orphan. Thomas Christian won the case.

Thomas Christian - 17 Jun 1824
Tazewell County
40 a. On Indian Creek
Grants No. 73, p. 180

Thomas Christian - 17 Jun 1824
Tazewell County
120 a. On Indian Creek
Grants No. 73, p. 192

Thomas Christian - 6 Sept 1826
Tazewell County
15 a. On Tug River and lower end of his land
Grants No. 75, p. 274

Thomas Christian - 10 Jul 1826
Tazewell County
58 a. On the Tug fork of Sandy River
Grants No. 78, p. 228

Thomas Christian - 21 Mar 1836
Tazewell County
77 a. At the mouth of Crain (sic) Creek
Grants No. 85, p. 403

Thomas Christian - 1 May 1855
(of David)
Tazewell County
392 a. On Left hand fork of Indian Creek of Clinch
Grants No. 111, p. 180

Thomas B. Christian - 1 Jun 1856
Tazewell County
140 a. On a ridge dividing waters of Indian Creek from Middle Creek
Grants No. 112, p. 547



CENSUS RECORDS

1820 United States Federal Census
Name: Thomas Christian
Home in 1820 (City, County, State): Tazewell, Virginia
Enumeration Date: August 7, 1820
Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 15: 2
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 18: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25: 2
Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over: 1
Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over : 1
Number of Persons - Engaged in Agriculture: 3
Free White Persons - Under 16: 4
Free White Persons - Over 25: 2
Total Free White Persons: 8
Total All Persons - White, Slaves, Colored, Other: 8

1830 United States Federal Census
Name: Thomas Christian
Home in 1830 (City, County, State): Tazewell, Virginia
Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 15 thru 19: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 50 thru 59: 1
Free White Persons - Females - Under 5: 2
Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: 2
Free White Persons - Females - 30 thru 39: 2
Free White Persons - Under 20: 7
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2
Total Free White Persons: 10

1840 United States Federal Census
Name: Thomas Christian
Home in 1840 (City, County, State): Tazewell, Virginia
Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 20 thru 29: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 60 thru 69: 1
Free White Persons - Females - Under 5: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 30 thru 39: 1
Persons Employed in Agriculture: 2
No. White Persons over 20 Who Cannot Read and Write: 2
Free White Persons - Under 20: 5
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2
Total Free White Persons: 8
Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves: 8

1850 United States Federal Census
Name: Thos Christian
Age: 80
Birth Year: abt 1770
Birthplace: Virginia
Home in 1850: Western District, Tazewell, Virginia
Gender: Male
Family Number: 1170
Household Members:
Thos Christian 80
Mary Christian 40
Mathias Christian 16
George Christian 14
Susana Christian 13
Sally Christian 10
Letty Christian 8

Birth:
Land is now part of Tazewell Co. VA

Occupation:
millwright

Died:
Another source for DOD
Name: Thomas Christian
Death Date: Dec 1852
City: Tazewell
State: VA

Edmund West, comp.. Family Data Collection - Deaths [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2001.
The Family Data Collection - Deaths database was created while gathering genealogical data for use in the study of human genetics and disease.

Thomas married Mary [Polly] C. ALTIZER 21 Jun 1829, Tazewell Co VA. Mary (daughter of David Riley ALTIZER and Susan SLUSHER) was born 09 Nov 1815, Montgomery Co. VA; died 17 Jun 1894, Tazewell Co. VA; was buried , Wingo Family Cemetery Bandy Tazewell Co. VA. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• _UID: E983E85131CD4003B962C7A282E2E7873C0D

Notes:

"Annals of Tazewell Co, VA", Harman, Vol I, page 85.
Thomas Christian married on 18 Jun 1829 Mary Altizer in Tazewell Co, VA.

Virginia Marriages, 1740-1850
Groom Name: Thomas Christian
Bride Name: Mary Alizer
Marriage Date: 18 Jun 1829
County: Tazewell
State: Virginia
Dodd, Jordan R., et al.. Early American Marriages: Virginia to 1850. Bountiful, UT

Buried:
Grave location and tombstone photo:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GScid=2430238&GRid=82115575&

Died:
Virginia, Deaths and Burials Index, 1853-1917
Name: Mary Christian
[Mary Altizer]
Birth Date: abt 1806
Birth Place: Tazewell, Virginia
Death Date: 17 Jun 1894
Death Place: Laurel Creek, Tazewell, Virginia
Death Age: 88
Race: White
Gender: Female
Father Name: David Altizer
Mother Name: Susan Altizer
FHL Film Number: 2048586

Her tombstone has the date of death as Jul. 2, 1894.

Notes:

Married:
Virginia Marriages, 1740-1850
Groom Name: Thomas Christian
Bride Name: Mary Alizer
Marriage Date: 18 Jun 1829
County: Tazewell
State: Virginia

Dodd, Jordan R., et al.. Early American Marriages: Virginia to 1850. Bountiful, UT