Daniel Asbury

Male 1850 - 1906  (56 years)


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  1. 1.  Daniel Asbury was born 13 Jan 1850, Tazewell Co. VA (son of James Harvey Asbury and Levicie CHRISTIAN); died 03 Oct 1906, McDowell Co. WV; was buried , High Knob Cemetery, Iaeger, McDowell Co. WV.

    Notes:

    CENSUS RECORDS

    1860 United States Federal Census
    Name: Daniel Asbury
    Age in 1860: 9
    Birth Year: abt 1851
    Birthplace: Virginia
    Home in 1860: Western District, Tazewell, Virginia
    Gender: Male in household of James Harvey and Levicy Asbury
    Post Office: Baptist Valley

    1870 United States Federal Census
    Name: Daniel Asberry [Daniel Asbury]
    Age in 1870: 20
    Birth Year: abt 1850
    Birthplace: Virginia
    Home in 1870: Sandy River, McDowell, West Virginia
    Race: White
    Gender: Male in household of James Harvey and Levicy Asbury
    Post Office: Tug River

    1880 United States Federal Census
    Name: Daniel Asberry [Daniel Asbury]
    Age: 29
    Birth Year: abt 1851
    Birthplace: Virginia
    Home in 1880: Sandy River, McDowell, West Virginia
    Race: White
    Gender: Male
    Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
    Marital Status: Married
    Spouse's Name: Sarah Asberry
    Father's Birthplace: Virginia
    Mother's Birthplace: Virginia
    Occupation: Farmer
    Household Members:
    Daniel Asberry 29
    Sarah Asberry 26

    1900 United States Federal Census
    Name: Da* Asbury [Daniel Asbury]
    Age: 50
    Birth Date: Jan 1850
    Birthplace: Virginia
    Home in 1900: Sandy River, McDowell, West Virginia
    Race: White
    Gender: Male
    Relation to Head of House: Head
    Marital Status: Married
    Spouse's Name: Sarah Asbury
    Marriage Year: 1868
    Years Married: 32
    Father's Birthplace: Virginia
    Mother's Birthplace: Virginia
    Household Members:
    Daniel Asbury 50
    Sarah Asbury 46
    Lavena Asbury 9
    Lovice Asberry 7
    Lyda M. Asberry 5
    Lewis Asberry 1


    Birth:
    DOB according to 1900 census

    Buried:
    Grave location:
    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=AS&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=52&GScntry=4&GSsr=41&GRid=62977493&

    Daniel married Sarah Riffe. Sarah was born 03 Jun 1853, West Virginia; died 15 Apr 1934, McDowell Co. WV; was buried , High Knob Cemetery, Iaeger, McDowell Co. WV. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. Lovice Asbury was born ca 1873, McDowell Co. WV.
    2. Lydia Asbury was born ca 1875, McDowell Co. WV; died 23 Feb 1973, Lewis Co. WA; was buried , Salkum Cemetery, Salkum, Lewis Co. WA.
    3. Lewis Asbury was born ca 1879, McDowell Co. WV.
    4. Lavena Asbury was born Mar 1891, McDowell Co. WV.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  James Harvey Asbury was born 12 Apr 1829, Tazewell Co. VA; died 21 Feb 1905, McDowell Co. WV.

    Notes:

    CENSUS RECORDS

    1850 United States Federal Census
    Name: Jos H Asberry [James H Asbury]
    Age: 20
    Birth Year: abt 1830
    Birthplace: Virginia
    Home in 1850: Western District, Tazewell, Virginia
    Gender: Male
    Family Number: 1166
    Household Members:
    Jas H Asberry 20
    Lovisa Asberry 18

    1860 United States Federal Census
    Name: Henry Asbury [James Harvey Asbury]
    Age in 1860: 29
    Birth Year: abt 1831
    Birthplace: Virginia
    Home in 1860: Western District, Tazewell, Virginia
    Gender: Male
    Post Office: Baptist Valley
    Household Members:
    Henry Asbury 29
    Lancy Asbury 28
    Daniel Asbury 9
    Hanah Asbury 7
    Nancy Asbury 5
    David Asbury 4
    Mary Asbury 1

    1870 United States Federal Census
    Name: James H Asberry [James H Asbury]
    Age in 1870: 40
    Birth Year: abt 1830
    Birthplace: Virginia
    Home in 1870: Sandy River, McDowell, West Virginia
    Race: White
    Gender: Male
    Post Office: Tug River
    Household Members:
    James H Asberry 40
    Leuicie Asberry 38
    Daniel Asberry 20
    Hannah Asberry 18
    Nancy Asberry 16
    David Asberry 14
    Mary Asberry 12
    Margaret Asberry 10
    George W Asberry 7
    Amanda Asberry 6
    Elizabeth Asberry 3

    1880 United States Federal Census
    Name: James H. Asberry [James H. Asbury]
    Age: 54
    Birth Year: abt 1826
    Birthplace: Virginia
    Home in 1880: Sandy River, McDowell, West Virginia
    Race: White
    Gender: Male
    Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
    Marital Status: Married
    Spouse's Name: Lovice Asberry
    Father's Birthplace: Virginia
    Mother's Birthplace: Virginia
    Occupation: Farmer
    Household Members:
    James H. Asberry 54
    Lovice Asberry 48
    Margaret Asberry 18
    George Asberry 15
    Amanda Asberry 14
    Elisabeth Asberry 12
    Angeline Asberry 10
    Henry Asberry 8
    Charlotte Asberry 6
    Rebecca Asberry 5
    Sarah Asberry 2
    Alas Asberry 2

    James married Levicie CHRISTIAN 06 Feb 1850, Tazewell Co. VA. Levicie (daughter of Daniel CHRISTIAN and Hannah Harrison) was born ca 1836, Tazewell Co. VA; died Aft 1880, McDowell Co. WV. [Group Sheet]


  2. 3.  Levicie CHRISTIAN was born ca 1836, Tazewell Co. VA (daughter of Daniel CHRISTIAN and Hannah Harrison); died Aft 1880, McDowell Co. WV.

    Notes:

    CENSUS RECORDS

    1850 United States Federal Census
    Name: Louisa Asberry [Lovice Asbury]
    Age: 18
    Birth Year: abt 1832
    Birthplace: Virginia
    Home in 1850: Western District, Tazewell, Virginia
    Gender: Female
    Family Number: 1166
    Household Members:
    Jas H Asberry 20
    Louisa Asberry 18

    1860 United States Federal Census
    Name: Lancy Asbury [Lovice Asbury] [Levicie Christian]
    Age in 1860: 28
    Birth Year: abt 1832
    Birthplace: Virginia
    Home in 1860: Western District, Tazewell, Virginia
    Gender: Female
    Post Office: Baptist Valley
    Household Members:
    Henry Asbury 29
    Lancy Asbury 28
    Daniel Asbury 9
    Hanah Asbury 7
    Nancy Asbury 5
    David Asbury 4
    Mary Asbury 1

    1870 United States Federal Census
    Name: Leuicie Asberry [Lovice Asbury]
    Age in 1870: 38
    Birth Year: abt 1832
    Birthplace: Virginia
    Home in 1870: Sandy River, McDowell, West Virginia
    Race: White
    Gender: Female
    Post Office: Tug River
    Value of real estate: View image
    Household Members:
    James H Asberry 40
    Leuicie Asberry 38
    Daniel Asberry 20
    Hannah Asberry 18
    Nancy Asberry 16
    David Asberry 14
    Mary Asberry 12
    Margaret Asberry 10
    George W Asberry 7
    Amanda Asberry 6
    Elizabeth Asberry 3

    1880 United States Federal Census
    Name: Lovice Asberry [Lovice Asbury]
    Age: 48
    Birth Year: abt 1832
    Birthplace: Virginia
    Home in 1880: Sandy River, McDowell, West Virginia
    Race: White
    Gender: Female
    Relation to Head of House: Wife
    Marital Status: Married
    Spouse's Name: James H. Asberry
    Father's Birthplace: Virginia
    Mother's Birthplace: Virginia
    Occupation: Keeping House
    Household Members:
    James H. Asberry 54
    Lovice Asberry 48
    Margaret Asberry 18
    George Asberry 15
    Amanda Asberry 14
    Elisabeth Asberry 12
    Angeline Asberry 10
    Henry Asberry 8
    Charlotte Asberry 6
    Rebecca Asberry 5
    Sarah Asberry 2
    Alas Asberry 2

    Children:
    1. 1. Daniel Asbury was born 13 Jan 1850, Tazewell Co. VA; died 03 Oct 1906, McDowell Co. WV; was buried , High Knob Cemetery, Iaeger, McDowell Co. WV.
    2. Hannah Asbury was born 06 Jun 1853, Tazewell Co. VA; died 06 May 1926, McDowell Co. WV; was buried , Keystone, McDowell Co. WV.
    3. Nancy Asbury was born ca 1855, Tazewell Co. VA; died 14 Nov 1921, Wyoming Co. WV.
    4. David Asbury was born 23 May 1857, Tazewell Co. VA; died 03 May 1926, Iaeger, McDowell Co. WV; was buried , Reed Cemetery, McDowell Co. WV.
    5. Mary Asbury was born Aug 1858, Tazewell Co. VA; died Aft 1910, Tazewell Co. VA.
    6. Margaret Asbury was born ca 1860, Tazewell Co. VA.
    7. George Washington Asbury was born Sep 1863, Tazewell Co. VA; died 18 Nov 1930, McDowell Co. WV.
    8. Angeline Asbury was born 30 Jul 1869, McDowell Co. WV; died 19 Jan 1941, McDowell Co. WV; was buried , Lex, McDowell Co. WV.
    9. Elizabeth Asbury was born 20 May 1867, McDowell Co. WV; died 02 Jan 1939, Iager, McDowell Co. VW; was buried , Powell Cemetery, Iaeger McDowell Co. WV.
    10. William Henry Asbury was born Apr 1872, McDowell Co. WV; died 01 Jul 1919, McDowell Co. WV; was buried , Jewell-Mitchell Cemetery, McDowell Co. WV.
    11. Charlotte Asbury was born 06 Feb 1873, McDowell Co. WV; died 14 Aug 1943, Iaeger, McDowell Co. WV; was buried , High Knob Cemetery, Iaeger, McDowell Co. WV.
    12. Rebecca Asbury was born 10 Mar 1875, McDowell Co. WV; died 05 Mar 1933, McDowell Co. WV; was buried , Asbury, Cemetery, Jolo, McDowell Co. WV.
    13. Sarah (Sally) Asbury was born Jan 1878, McDowell Co. WV; died Bef 1907, McDowell Co. WV.


Generation: 3

  1. 6.  Daniel CHRISTIAN was born Abt 1807, Sinking Waters, Tazewell Co. VA (son of Thomas Bailey CHRISTIAN and Louisa HARMAN); died 21 Dec 1884, Tazewell Co VA.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: EB10A139A0284874A3A643F2CE8F08C60218

    Notes:

    CENSUS RECORDS

    1840 United States Federal Census
    Name: Daniel Christian
    Home in 1840 (City, County, State): Tazewell, Virginia
    Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: 1
    Free White Persons - Males - 30 thru 39: 1
    Free White Persons - Females - Under 5: 2
    Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: 2
    Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29: 1
    Persons Employed in Agriculture: 1
    Free White Persons - Under 20: 5
    Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2
    Total Free White Persons: 7
    Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves: 7

    1850 United States Federal Census
    Name: Dane Christian [Danl Christian] [Daniel Christian]
    Age: 43
    Birth Year: abt 1807
    Birthplace: Virginia
    Home in 1850: Western District, Tazewell, Virginia
    Gender: Male
    Family Number: 1167
    Household Members:
    Danl Christian 43
    Hannah Christian 36
    Nancy Christian 13
    David Christian 11
    Polly Christian 9
    Jno Christian 8
    Geo Christian 6
    Elener Christian 4
    Rich Christian 2
    Wm Christian 1

    1860 United States Federal Census
    Name: Daniel Christian
    Age in 1860: 53
    Birth Year: abt 1807
    Birthplace: Virginia
    Home in 1860: Western District, Tazewell, Virginia
    Gender: Male
    Post Office: Baptist Valley
    Household Members:
    Daniel Christian 53
    Hannah Christian 27
    George Christian 16
    Ellen Christian 14
    Rachel Christian 12
    William Christian 11
    Chas M Christian 10
    Louisa Christian 8
    Sarah A Christian 3
    Crockett Christian 1

    1870 United States Federal Census
    Name: Daniel Christian
    Age in 1870: 68
    Birth Year: abt 1802
    Birthplace: Virginia
    Home in 1870: Maiden Spring, Tazewell, Virginia
    Race: White
    Post Office: Knob
    Household Members:
    Daniel Christian 68
    Hannah Christian 58
    Thomas M Christian 18
    Louisa Christian 10
    Sarah A Christian 14
    Crockutt Christian 12

    1880 United States Federal Census
    Name: Daniel Christian
    Age: 73
    Birth Year: abt 1807
    Birthplace: Virginia
    Home in 1880: Maiden Spring, Tazewell, Virginia
    Race: White
    Gender: Male
    Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
    Marital Status: Married
    Spouse's Name: Hanah Christian
    Father's Birthplace: Virginia
    Mother's Birthplace: Virginia
    Occupation: Farmer
    Household Members:
    Daniel Christian 73
    Hanah Christian 68
    Marion Christian 23

    MILITARY RECORDS

    Civil War Soldier Records and Profiles
    Name: Daniel Christian
    Residence: Tazewell, Virginia
    Enlistment Date: 31 Jul 1862
    Rank at enlistment: Private
    Enlistment Place: Tazewell, Virginia
    State Served: Virginia
    Survived the War?: Yes
    Service Record: Enlisted in Company H, Virginia 29th Infantry Regiment on 31 Jul 1862.Mustered out on 15 Apr 1864.
    Sources: The Virginia Regimental Histories Series

    American Civil War Soldiers
    Name: Daniel Christian
    Enlistment Date: 31 Jul 1862
    Enlistment Place: Tazewell, Virginia
    Side Served: Confederacy
    State Served: Virginia
    Service Record: Enlisted as a Private on 31 July 1862.
    Enlisted in Company H, 29th Infantry Regiment Virginia on 31 Jul 1862.
    Deserted from Company H, 29th Infantry Regiment Virginia on 15 Apr 1864.
    Sources: 21

    Daniel married Hannah Harrison 23 Apr 1831, Tazewell Co. VA. Hannah was born ca 1814, Tazewell Co. VA. [Group Sheet]


  2. 7.  Hannah Harrison was born ca 1814, Tazewell Co. VA.

    Notes:

    Married:
    Virginia, Marriages, 1740-1850
    Name: Daniel Christian
    Gender: Male
    Spouse Name: Hannah Harrison
    Spouse Gender: Female
    Marriage Date: 23 Apr 1831
    County: Tazewell
    State: Virginia
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01695-4
    System Origin: Virginia-EASy
    GS Film number: 34214
    Reference ID: Page 108

    Children:
    1. Susan CHRISTIAN was born Dec 1828, Tazewell Co. VA.
    2. Rebecca Christian was born 1831, Tazewell Co. VA; died 1870, McDowell Co. WV; was buried , High Knob Cemetery, Iaeger, McDowell Co. WV.
    3. 3. Levicie CHRISTIAN was born ca 1836, Tazewell Co. VA; died Aft 1880, McDowell Co. WV.
    4. Nancy CHRISTIAN was born ca 1836, Tazewell Co. VA.
    5. David CHRISTIAN was born ca 1839, Tazewell Co. VA.
    6. Mary (Polly) CHRISTIAN was born ca 1841, Tazewell Co. VA.
    7. John CHRISTIAN was born ca 1842, Tazewell Co. VA.
    8. George CHRISTIAN was born ca 1844, Tazewell Co. VA.
    9. Eleanor CHRISTIAN was born Sep 1846, Tazewell Co. VA; died 16 Apr 1915, McDowell Co. WV.
    10. Rachel CHRISTIAN was born ca 1848, Tazewell Co. VA.
    11. Charles CHRISTIAN was born ca 1850, Tazewell Co. VA.
    12. William Crockett Christian was born ca 1851, Tazewell Co. VA.
    13. Louisa CHRISTIAN was born ca 1852, Tazewell Co. VA.
    14. Thomas M. CHRISTIAN was born ca 1854, Tazewell Co. VA.
    15. Sarah CHRISTIAN was born ca 1857, Tazewell Co. VA.
    16. Crockett H. CHRISTIAN was born ca 1858, Tazewell Co. VA.


Generation: 4

  1. 12.  Thomas Bailey CHRISTIAN was born 15 Mar 1770, Botetourt Co. VA (son of Thomas Mastin and Agnes); died Dec 1854, Tazewell Co VA.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 1B2F7D19EF3A4A6AAA5034573786D67E53DF

    Notes:

    THOMAS BAILEY CHRISTIAN WAS NOT A DESCENDANT OF CHIEF CORNSTALK.

    We know Thomas Bailey Christian (TBC) was orphaned and raised by Capt. Thomas Mastin, Sumner Co. TN. His parentage is the subject of much dispute among Christian researchers. One group says that Thomas Bailey Christian is the grandson of Chief Cornstalk and his father was Ellinipsico. Another group puts his parents as Nathaniel and Jane Christian with his ancestry going to the Isle of Man.

    DNA studies are underway of several Christian descendants. The initial result shows no Native American ancestry, but rather European and Scandinavian, indicating the Isle of Man connection.

    Kennith Simpson has been the leader in getting clarity the question of Christian DNA and Native American ancestry and of finding out more about Thomas Bailey Christian and Thoma Mastin. Kennith is a direct descendant of TBC on the "wrong side of the sheets" as his ancestor, Addison Christian, fathered a child out of wedlock.

    Kennith A. Simpson > son of Addison D. Simpson > son of
    Jerry Mastin Simpson > son of John Walden Simpson > son of
    Elizabeth Simpson and Unknown Father. [Notice how Christan names like Mastin and Addison are used in his Simpson family.]

    DNA, death certificate, and research indicates that the father was Addison "Attie" Bailey Christian > son of
    Mastin Harman "Shootekitehl" Christian > son of Thomas Bailey Christian.

    Kennith has written extensively about DNA testing and his test results on the Rootsweb Christian message board.

    THOMAS BAILEY CHRISTIAN WAS NOT NATIVE AMERICAN

    "I am matched with Nathaniel Christian by DNA Y-Chromosome,both via Y-Search and Ancestry.Com, handed down from father to son etc. My Y-Search DNA match is with Nathaniel Christian from the G. Payne family tree. My Ancestry.Com matches me up with Nathaniel J. Christian from the Fred Christian DNA and in the Christian Family Tree.

    Posted: 20 Sep 2012 7:00PM GMT by Kennith Simpson on Rootsweb Christian Family message board.

    "It does appear that my assumptions are correct in that Addison "Attie" Bailey Christian was not Native American. If in fact Addison Christian was the grandson of Thomas Bailey "Cornstalk" Christian, then TBC was not the son of Elinipsico or Chief Cornstalk since the Y-DNA would have been handed down from father to son to grandson etc. However this does indicate that Thomas Bailey Kumskaka Christian Cornstalk was not NA.

    We both share the same Haplogroup R1B which is of European and West Asia ancestry. Native Americans are not in the R1B Haplogroup.

    While this does not show conclusive evidence that Addison "Attie" Bailey Chritian was my great, great, grandfather it does show that who ever it was, was a member of his family. My only conclusive evidence is of Course the Death Certificate naming Attie Christian as the father.

    What the Y-DNA test and the BETA Ethnicity test has been able to conclude is that I am descended from the Christian family, Tazewell Virginia and that there is no Native American blood in the male lines. This does not rule out the possibility of NA blood in the maternal or female lines."

    Posted: 31 Jan 2013 3:07 AM GMT by Kennith Simpson on Rootsweb Christian Family message board.

    FINAL CONFIRMATION: THOMAS BAILEY CHRISTIAN WAS NOT NATIVE AMERICAN

    Kennith Simpson took a second DNA test form 23 and Me to confirm what Ancestry's test had indicated. Here are the results:

    Today I received my DNA test results back from 23 andMe. The test results confirm that there is no Native American DNA in my blood line on either side. Therefore any Native American ancestry in my family would only be possible if it is by marriage and not by actual blood line. Both ancestry.com and 23 and Me stipulate 0% NA DNA results in all of my tests. I am still waiting on the results for DNA matches and will keep everyone informed.

    What this means in a nutshell is that any one related to Thomas Bailey Christian the reported adopted son of Thomas Mastin would not be NA on the paternal side. Any Native American ancestry could only come down through the maternal side. Since the BETA ancestry test included both the maternal and paternal side it would also mean that Mastin Harman Christian nor his wife Jane McKinster had NA DNA. It would also mean that Louisa Katherine Harman did not carry any NA DNA. Any children of these men who had different mothers could still carry NA DNA from their maternal side.

    Me, my father Addison D. Simpson son of Jerry Mastin Simpson son of John Walden Simpson, son of Addison "Attie" Bailey Christian son of Mastin Christian, son of Thomas Bailey Christian, are not or were not of Native American Descent. Thomas Bailey Christian was not the son of Chief Cornstalk or his son Elinispisco, and his mother was not of NA ancestry either. BETA DNA testing would have shown any NA DNA on either side of Thomas Bailey Christian.

    Posted: 26 Nov 2013 3:01 AM GMT by Kennith Simpson on Rootsweb Christian Family message board.

    FINAL WORD: NO NATIVE AMERICAN DNA PERIOD

    Just to let everyone know that I have gotten other DNA matches, this time through the 23 and Me DNA testing. This has opened up a new problem however. Both the ancestry.com and the 23 and Me DNA BETA tests are ethnicity tests and help individuals determine their ethnicity. These test are not gender specific such as the Y-DNA and Mitochondrial DNA tests. The BETA test includes DNA findings for virtually every member of the family. Thus far I have not had a single match that shows any Native American DNA in any line of the families, male or female.

    I am now convinced beyond a doubt that Thomas Bailey Christian was not Native American nor was his mother. And most likely no relative was related via DNA to any Native American Tribe, but I do not rule out that some distant relatives may have been raised NA and considered themselves as such. Thus passing down from generation to generation their Native American Ancestry. I also believe that there are two kinds of Ancestry, that which is substantiated by DNA testing and passed down through our DNA and that which we associate with as being our ethnicity the group or heritage that we most commonly relate to.

    Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:55:51

    OTHERS MALES CHRISTIAN RESULTS

    "We now have three members of the TBC line that have taken at least one of the DNA test. Myself and Charlie have taken both the Y-DNA and the BETA DNA test. All tests show the same conclusion, NO NA DNA. Here is what is so good about this. You trace your line back to Thomas Scaggs Christian, Charlie goes back to Moses Christian and I go back to Mastin Christian. all are brothers, all are sons of Thomas Bailey Christian. Our big stumbling block now is connecting TBC Christian and Thomas Christian of Tazewell to the Christians of Charles City."

    Posted: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 13:32:30 by Kennith Simpson on Rootsweb Christian Family message board.

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    THOMAS BAILEY CHRISTIAN'S ANCESTRY GOES BACK TO THE ISLE OF MAN

    From Kennith Simpson:

    "I now have two verifiable matches from the BETA DNA test. One which does prove the connection with Charles City, Bedford Virginia area and one that does come back to Tazewell.

    This is all good because the Tazewell connection is from DNA. Matching DNA is an indication that Thomas Bailey Christian was not Indian and that his origins most likely does go back to Charles City or to a member of that family.

    The problem of narrowing it down is so difficult, because the Y-Chromosome DNA pertaining to the male line, pertains to all the male line. So, Thomas Bailey Christian would have the Christian DNA but he could have been born in Tazewell from a father or grandfather from Charles City. All male Christians from a single line would carry the same DNA but could come from many areas. The original Christian line that carries my DNA goes back to the Isle of Man and then to Scandinavia. some Christians of the same line can go back to Ireland, England or Scotland but be of the same origin. It depends on how far back you can trace your ancestors. Everyone that shares the same Y-Chromosome DNA will eventually end up at a single beginning. When I said I had yet to find any thing that will connect the Tazewell Christians with the Charles City Christians. I would prefer to have male Y-Chromosome DNA in order to make the connection but any DNA is better than none.

    May Elizabeth Christian is a direct descendent of Thomas Bailey Christian and a DNA match does connect the two branches, Tazewell and Charles City.

    This would be my first verifiable BETA match to Tazewell.
    The Young family DNA results connect the Charles City Christians with me. Elizabeth is my first match back to the old country through the BETA testing as opposed to the Y-Chromosome test.

    In a nutshell, Elizabeth is old Country England. Young connects me with Charles City May Christian connects me with the Tazewell branch. Both Young and May Christian share my DNA per BETA testing therefor the two branches do meet and are one."

    Posted: 10 Jan 2013 2:28PM GMT by Kennith Simpson on Rootsweb Christian Family message board.

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    AGNES BRANCH PEARLMAN, FOUNDER OF THE CHRISTIAN FAMILY CHRONICLES: THOMAS BAILEY CHRISTIAN IS NOT THE SON OF NATHANIEL CHRISTIAN AND JANE EWING

    Agnes Branch Pearlman, long-time Christian Family researcher and publisher of the Christian Family Chronicles, presented the best research that Thomas Bailey Christian of Tazewell County, VA is NOT the son of Nathaniel Christian and Jane Ewing, Thomas Ewing Christian.

    Below is her response to this question in a message posted December 31, 2000 at 10:19:53 on http://genforum.genealogy.com/christian/messages/1207.html.

    Mrs. Pearlman died 21 May 2010.

    I am posting her research and results so this misinformation will not be continued to be spread.

    "Dear Linda and other Christian Cousins:

    The following is being sent to all of you who received information that "Old Lewis' brother Nathaniel settled in Tazewell Co., VA . . ."

    Not so! Or at least I have never seen any evidence that would substantiate such a move. Indeed, I have written numerous letters within the last year showing that Nathaniel Christian's son Thomas was not the one who settled in Tazewell Co., VA. Where on earth is all this erroneous and dubious information coming from?

    Thomas Christian, progenitor of Tazewell Co., VA, was born about 1770?a boy of only 9 years of age when Nathaniel Christian's estate was settled in Montgomery Co., VA. A 9-year-old boy would have been too young to have served as security of his father's estate. Nathaniel Christian's son.

    Thomas, born about 1750-57, was one of the securities of Nathaniel's estate (along with Thomas' brother-in-law William Boydston); and, of course, as a 22 to 29-year-old was quite old enough to serve in such a capacity.

    Nathaniel's son Thomas was living in Cocke Co., TN, in 1830 at the same time the other Thomas was living in Tazewell Co., VA. The U. S. census as well as other records document their presence and approximate ages. It is my guess that because, as court records reveal, Thomas of Tazewell was "an orphan," someone simply assumed that he must have been Nathaniel's son, but that simply was not the case.

    As for Nathaniel Christian: Following are a few documented events of his life:

    Nathaniel was born between 1723-1733 since he was named as underaged son in 23 October 1743 Goochland Co., VA, will of father, Thomas Christian.

    Nathaniel married Jane (Ewing?) about 1747.

    Nathaniel's daughter Elizabeth Christian was born 1748.

    Nathaniel's son Thomas Christian was born 1750-57.

    Nathaniel was listed as tithe in Lunenburg Co., VA, in 1752 as was his brother Thomas.

    Nathaniel purchased 175 acres (of 225) on Cub Creek in Lunenburg Co., VA, 1 July 1754. Brother Thomas was witness to the purchase..

    Bedford Co., VA, was formed from part of Albemarle and Lunenburg 1753-4.

    Brother Thomas in Bedford Co., VA, by 25 November 1760.

    Nathaniel's son Isham was born about 1760.

    Nathaniel sold 175 acres on Cub Creek of Lunenburg Co., VA, 12 March 1762 with brother Thomas as witness.

    Nathaniel made entry of 400 acres in Bedford Co., VA, lower side south of Blackwater on Hastie's & Smith's lines beginning at Irwin's corner red oak under Smith's Mountain 28 February 1763.

    Nathaniel's son Anthony was born about 1765.

    Pittsylvania formed from Halifax adjacent Bedford 1766-7; county boundaries in state of flux for several years.

    Nathaniel was on list of tithables in Pittsylvania 1767.
    Nathaniel attended Bedford Co., VA, court in August 1768 (28 miles from home).

    Nathaniel entered 400 acres Poison Fork of Bull Run in Bedford Co., VA, adjacent his own lines & Swanson's 4 April 1769.

    Nathaniel's daughter Drucilla was born about 1769.

    Brother Thomas allowed 30 miles to Bedford Co., VA, Courthouse March 1771.

    Nathaniel living in Pittsylvania Co., VA, 22 July 1773
    [Note: Nathaniel's home location in Pittsylvania Co., VA, straddled Bedford Co., VA, near where his brother Thomas lived on Staunton River in Bedford.]

    Nathaniel was assigned 400 acres on East River below Five-Mile Fork, 3 Miles from Mouth in Montgomery Co., VA, by James Adair about 1777.

    Daughter Elizabeth married William Boydston 1777 in Montgomery Co., VA.

    In 1777/1778 Nathaniel Christian and William Boydston swore allegiance to Militia in Montgomery Co., VA.

    Sometime after 1777 and before November 1781, Nathaniel's brother Thomas died, apparently in Bedford Co., VA.

    Nathaniel died intestate and estate was administered in Montgomery Co., VA, 2 March 1779. Widow Jane was named as administrator with son Thomas and son-in-law William Boydston as security.

    As heir under laws of primogenitor, eldest son Thomas inherited 400 acres on East River in Montgomery Co., VA, which he assigned to brothers Isham and Anthony Christian 3 April 1786.

    By 18 September 1799 Nathaniel's son Thomas Christian was of Cocke Co., TN

    One final comment: I believe that the Thomas Christian of Tazewell Co., VA, was probably related in some way to this family; however, I do not have any documentation that proves such a connection. Was he perhaps a son of David Christian, another son named in the 1743 will of Thomas Christian?

    I welcome your input and evaluation of the above information.

    Agnes Branch Pearlman"

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    THERE MAY BE A NATIVE AMERICAN CONNECTION THROUGH THE WOMEN WHO MARRIED INTO THE CHRISTIAN FAMILY

    The lack of connection to this Christian line has provided credence to an oral tradition handed down through several branches of Thomas Bailey Christian's descendants. So far there have been no Native American DNA from Thomas Bailey Christian's Y-DNA (Male line) from his descendants who have been tested through Ancestry.com.

    HOWEVER, Native American ancestry most likely was from MATERNAL lines who married into this Christian family, especially the Skaggs, Whitt, and Lester families. There is no doubt of contact with Native American culture through the long hunter ancestry of the Whitt, Skaggs, and Harman men. With these two influences, TBS and his children may have been given Native American names. TBCs' Native American name was "Kumskaka." Are these names accurate? Are they Cherokee or Shawnee in origin? Who are the sources for these names?

    I have made an editorial decision to keep these names rather than delete them because of the maternal lines as well as the cultural contacts.

    There is a very active Yahoo group discussing this ancestry at http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/nikitie/conversations/messages.

    According to James Red Wolf, after Chief Cornstalk and Ellinipsico were murdered at Point Pleasant. Ellinipsico's four children including his son Thomas Bailey were adopted by the Long Hunters. It now appears that TBC was not his son, but the other three may have been his children. Whatever the reason or circumstance, they came under the care or guardianship of Thomas Mastin and others.

    There is a lot of discussion on the Christian family forums on Rootsweb, Ancestry, and Genealogy.com about the possible parentage of Thomas Bailey Christian and Rachel Skaggs.

    Here is some of the discussion threads:
    http://www.genforum.familytreemaker.com/christian/messages/2898.html

    You can also search for more discussion at http://www.genforum.familytreemaker.com/christian/

    There has been no definitive proof on this, although Mr. Red Wolf alludes to "proof" in the Virginia State Archives, but has not shared any proof beyond oral history from one part of the Christian and Skaggs families. His family tree is available at

    http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=AHN&db=adkinsfam&id=I19526

    Other source:

    http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Thomas_Christian_%2813%29

    NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE DISCOUNTED

    Tales of Native American heritage were passed down to his descendants. His great-grandchild Sallie Christian Charles, grandaughter of Moses Bailey Christian, and daughter of John Christian and Clemmie Harman, applied to the Eastern Cherokee in 1908. Application #10464. In her application she spells his name "Mose." Her application was rejected.

    For more information about Cherokee genealogy, check out http://www.pollysgranddaughter.com. The following is from her article about Cherokee Wannabes. Since so much has been written about Moses' father, Thomas Bailey Christan, having Native American heritage, which has NOT been borne out by Y-DNA results or autosomal DNA results by any of his descendants.

    This site has excellent articles on how to prove Cherokee ancestry. http://www.pollysgranddaughter.com/2011/06/fortune-hunters-guion-miller-roll-and.html#comment-form

    The Guion Miller Roll is a list of Eastern Cherokee Indians who applied for compensation because of a 1906 lawsuit, and judgment in the tribe's favor in the United States Court of Claims on May 28, 1906, for them. This resulted in the appropriation of $1 million to the Tribe's eligible individuals and families. Newspapers were full of announcements that the Cherokees and/or Cherokee heirs would be receiving money anywhere from $5,000,000 to $11,000,000. Many times it was not made clear this was money for nearly the entire tribe but instead gave the impression that it was for specific families.

    To be approved for funds the individual must have:
    1. Been alive as of May 28, 1906
    2. Established that he/she was a member or descendants of a person that had been included in the forced removal to Indian Territory, known as the Ross Party.
    3. Not been affiliated with a tribe other than the Cherokee
    4. Been members of the Eastern Cherokee tribe at the time of the treaties of 1835,1836, and 1845 between the United States and Eastern Cherokee.

    There were 45,857 applications filed for about 900,000 claimants. 30,254 of those claimants were entitled to share in the funds. This means nearly 2/3 of all claimants were NOT entitled and therefore rejected.

    A common assumption of those who descend from people who were rejected on the Miller Roll is that their ancestors were Cherokee, but they just couldn't prove it at that time. These families were usually always listed as white in vital records and were never listed in the Cherokee records or on any Cherokee rolls. They simply had no documentation or proof.

    People applied for the Miller Roll who had never heard they were Cherokee before the money or land topic came up. They were suddenly informed by someone that they were Cherokee or related to a specific family and should apply. There were families who had heard they were Indian or "kin" to them, so they applied even though they had never heard what tribe of Indians they might be "kin" to. There were people who were notified by "claim agents" and lawyers that they were entitled to lots of money so they applied. There were people who were told they would be receiving both land and money, so they applied. There were people who applied because they thought they were enrolling in the Eastern Cherokee tribe and then would be entitled to land and money.

    Many of the rejected claimants, for one reason or another, filed a claim believing they were going to come into money. One has to be careful of not basing claim to Cherokee ancestry based on a rejected claim from the Miller Roll. Though these applications often offer a lot of genealogical information, they don't necessarily offer any proof of Cherokee ancestry.



    RECORDS ON THOMAS BAILEY CHRISTIAN

    Source: "Reed and Related Families of Tazewell County, Virginia and McDowell County, West Virginia", by Juanita S Halstead.

    From various records extant today, we have found that Thomas Christian was orphaned and raised by Major Thomas Mastin. We do know that he appears in Tazewell County
    records as early as 1806, and that he owned several tracts of land, making his home on the Sinking Waters in that county. There is a case on record in Augusta County, VA in which Thomas Christian had a suit against John Wray over this land on the Sinking Waters of Tazewell County.

    LAND RECORDS

    Land Grants

    Thomas Christian - 21 Feb 1785
    Montgomery County
    255 a. On Brush Creek, a branch of Bluestone the waters of New River
    Grants No. N, p. 696 [This could be Thomas (13) or Thomas (18) depending on where the Montgomery County border fell. More research needed.]

    Record of the Taxes in Sumner County for the Year 1792
    Thomas Christian, 1 poll, tax 1 pound. Next household is Thomas Mastin.

    Chalkley's Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish there is a lawsuit "Thomas Christian vs. Wray" 23 Jul 1803 which in a nutshell states Joseph Wray obtained certificate by right of settlment in Washington (afterwards Russell) now Tazewell Co. Joseph d. intestate, leaving son John Wray heir-at-law. John Wray sold a piece of land twice - first to Thomas Christian, of Sumner Co, territory south of the Ohio, by deed dated 26 Sep 1794 and then sold it a second time to Craven Belsha who bribed him......it states Thomas Christian was an orphan. Thomas Christian won the case.

    Thomas Christian - 17 Jun 1824
    Tazewell County
    40 a. On Indian Creek
    Grants No. 73, p. 180

    Thomas Christian - 17 Jun 1824
    Tazewell County
    120 a. On Indian Creek
    Grants No. 73, p. 192

    Thomas Christian - 6 Sept 1826
    Tazewell County
    15 a. On Tug River and lower end of his land
    Grants No. 75, p. 274

    Thomas Christian - 10 Jul 1826
    Tazewell County
    58 a. On the Tug fork of Sandy River
    Grants No. 78, p. 228

    Thomas Christian - 21 Mar 1836
    Tazewell County
    77 a. At the mouth of Crain (sic) Creek
    Grants No. 85, p. 403

    Thomas Christian - 1 May 1855
    (of David)
    Tazewell County
    392 a. On Left hand fork of Indian Creek of Clinch
    Grants No. 111, p. 180

    Thomas B. Christian - 1 Jun 1856
    Tazewell County
    140 a. On a ridge dividing waters of Indian Creek from Middle Creek
    Grants No. 112, p. 547



    CENSUS RECORDS

    1820 United States Federal Census
    Name: Thomas Christian
    Home in 1820 (City, County, State): Tazewell, Virginia
    Enumeration Date: August 7, 1820
    Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 1
    Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 15: 2
    Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 18: 1
    Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25: 2
    Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over: 1
    Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 1
    Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over : 1
    Number of Persons - Engaged in Agriculture: 3
    Free White Persons - Under 16: 4
    Free White Persons - Over 25: 2
    Total Free White Persons: 8
    Total All Persons - White, Slaves, Colored, Other: 8

    1830 United States Federal Census
    Name: Thomas Christian
    Home in 1830 (City, County, State): Tazewell, Virginia
    Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: 1
    Free White Persons - Males - 15 thru 19: 1
    Free White Persons - Males - 50 thru 59: 1
    Free White Persons - Females - Under 5: 2
    Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: 1
    Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: 2
    Free White Persons - Females - 30 thru 39: 2
    Free White Persons - Under 20: 7
    Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2
    Total Free White Persons: 10

    1840 United States Federal Census
    Name: Thomas Christian
    Home in 1840 (City, County, State): Tazewell, Virginia
    Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: 1
    Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: 1
    Free White Persons - Males - 20 thru 29: 1
    Free White Persons - Males - 60 thru 69: 1
    Free White Persons - Females - Under 5: 1
    Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: 1
    Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: 1
    Free White Persons - Females - 30 thru 39: 1
    Persons Employed in Agriculture: 2
    No. White Persons over 20 Who Cannot Read and Write: 2
    Free White Persons - Under 20: 5
    Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2
    Total Free White Persons: 8
    Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves: 8

    1850 United States Federal Census
    Name: Thos Christian
    Age: 80
    Birth Year: abt 1770
    Birthplace: Virginia
    Home in 1850: Western District, Tazewell, Virginia
    Gender: Male
    Family Number: 1170
    Household Members:
    Thos Christian 80
    Mary Christian 40
    Mathias Christian 16
    George Christian 14
    Susana Christian 13
    Sally Christian 10
    Letty Christian 8

    Birth:
    Land is now part of Tazewell Co. VA

    Occupation:
    millwright

    Died:
    Another source for DOD
    Name: Thomas Christian
    Death Date: Dec 1852
    City: Tazewell
    State: VA

    Edmund West, comp.. Family Data Collection - Deaths [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2001.
    The Family Data Collection - Deaths database was created while gathering genealogical data for use in the study of human genetics and disease.

    Thomas married Louisa HARMAN 04 Jun 1793, Wythe Co. VA. Louisa (daughter of Mathias (Tice or Tias) HARMAN, Sr. and Lydia SKAGGS) was born 1776, Strasburg, Orange Co. VA; died 1829, Tazewell Co. VA. [Group Sheet]


  2. 13.  Louisa HARMAN was born 1776, Strasburg, Orange Co. VA (daughter of Mathias (Tice or Tias) HARMAN, Sr. and Lydia SKAGGS); died 1829, Tazewell Co. VA.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: FD53EAC4E21E407DB4F577989D94229E645B

    Notes:

    "Alleghaney Co (VA) Heritage", Hildreth Smith article, page 192.
    Louisa Harman married Thomas B. Christian

    Notes:

    Married:
    U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900
    Name: Thomas Christian
    Gender: Male
    Birth Year: 1770
    Spouse Name: Louisa Harman
    Spouse Birth Year: 1772
    Marriage State: VA
    Number Pages: 1

    Children:
    1. Mastin Harman CHRISTIAN was born 8 Apr 1794, Wythe Co. VA; died 28 Feb 1853, Sinking Waters, Tazewell Co VA.
    2. Moses Bailey CHRISTIAN was born 13 May 1795, Wythe Co. VA; died 29 May 1855, Indian Creek, Tazewell Co. VA.
    3. James CHRISTIAN was born Abt 1795, Wythe Co. VA; died Abt 1823, Tazewell Co VA.
    4. Ruth CHRISTIAN was born Abt 1797, Wythe Co. VA; died Bef Dec 1854, Tazewell Co. VA.
    5. David CHRISTIAN was born Abt 1802, Sinking Waters, Tazewell Co. VA; died 2 Mar 1861, Sinking Waters, Tazewell Co VA.
    6. John CHRISTIAN was born 1804, Sinking Waters, Tazewell Co. VA; died Bef 1870, Buchanan Co. VA.
    7. 6. Daniel CHRISTIAN was born Abt 1807, Sinking Waters, Tazewell Co. VA; died 21 Dec 1884, Tazewell Co VA.
    8. Nancy Jane CHRISTIAN was born 3 Oct 1812, Sinking Waters, Tazewell Co. VA; died 2 Dec 1887, Avondale, McDowell Co., WV; was buried , In a hillside cemetery overlooking the site of the old Reed homestead on Crane Creek in McDowell Co., WVA.
    9. Thomas Scaggs CHRISTIAN was born 2 Oct 1813, Sinking Waters, Tazewell Co. VA; died 28 May 1891, Claypool Branch, Tazewell Co. VA.